Most LDS Faith Crises Start in the Wrong Place. Here's Where to Begin.

September 13
1h 8m

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Episode Description

Most people having a faith crisis are fighting on the branches — polygamy, DNA, the Book of Abraham, race and the priesthood — when the actual problem is buried somewhere underneath. What happens if you go all the way down to the roots and ask why anything exists at all?

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Jasmin Rappleye, Neal Rappleye, and Stephen Smoot sit down with Walker Wright, author of Nourishing the Roots: Seeking the Foundations of Latter-day Saint Testimony, published by FAIR. Walker takes a faith crisis apart from the bottom up — existence, intelligibility, morality, consciousness, God, the Resurrection, and the gold plates — and closes with the story of losing his sister at 11 and the years of atheism that followed.

===Informed Saints Credits===

Produced by The Ancient America Foundation

Producer: Spencer Clark

Hosts: Stephen Smoot, Neal Rappleye, Jasmin Rappleye

In this episode:

  • Elder Uchtdorf's roots-and-branches metaphor, mapped onto the first three temple recommend questions
  • Why a branch you're struggling with can sometimes just be pruned — and why you still have to face the hard issues eventually
  • Larry Corbridge's primary vs. secondary questions, and why an organism explains it better than concentric circles
  • Why no artifact from the ancient Near East or Mesoamerica will move a committed skeptic — and what "lucky guess" really means
  • Why nothing can predate existence, and what that implies about something self-existent, necessary, and eternal
  • Laws of nature, why math matches them, and Joseph Smith's revelations on the light of truth that was not created or made
  • Where objective morality comes from, and why the Holocaust is the test case
  • Andrew Ferguson on Thomas Nagel: why no materialist actually lives like a materialist
  • Fine-tuning and Martin Rees's Just Six Numbers — expand slightly faster or slower and there's no you
  • The multiverse, the inverse gambler's fallacy, and why it's fine-tuning with extra steps
  • The hard problem of consciousness, "What Is It Like to Be a Bat?", and how Mind and Cosmos got Nagel ostracized
  • Philosophical zombies, the China brain, and Alvin Plantinga on other minds and properly basic belief
  • Eternal intelligence, the mind of man, and the hierarchy of intelligences in Abraham 3
  • Miracles, divine healings, and what an exorcism implies about a hierarchy of spirits
  • Are Latter-day Saints materialists? Goodness, truth, beauty, and the telos of eternal progression
  • The Resurrection as the decisive revelation — Paul's undisputed letters, the Gospels as Greco-Roman biographies, and a crucified messiah nobody expected
  • Why the eleven witnesses come up in every Christian-atheist debate, and why William Lane Craig and Trent Horn brush past them
  • Oliver Cowdery's hand in the printer's manuscript, Martin Harris's matter-of-fact language, and how early those sources really are
  • What kind of person could have written the Book of Mormon — Tolkien after twenty years at Oxford, or a farmhand with a stone in a hat?
  • John Clark's 1% problem and Matt Roper's work on anachronisms
  • Why Moroni's promise is a targeted spiritual experience and not Pam feeling God at Chili's
  • Walker's sister Nicole, the MTC moment that changed everything, and why a faith crisis is like a horror movie

Further Readings:

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https://fairlatterdaysaints.org/store/product/nourishing-the-roots/

https://scripturecentral.org/archive/periodicals/journal-article/archaeological-trends-and-book-mormon-origins

https://juvenileinstructor.org/1829-mormon-discovery-brought-to-you-by-guest-erin-jennings/

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/printers-manuscript-of-the-book-of-mormon-circa-august-1829-circa-january-1830/467

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/october-2019-general-conference-temple-recommend

Our earlier episode with Josh Gehly on the gold plates and the Resurrection: https://youtu.be/8u2LssCP2vo

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