Steven and Ian begin with a quick Cinema-cast about the new Paul Thomas Anderson film, One Battle After Another, and how PTA is more like a great band than a great director (1:05). From there, they talk about the new Cate Le Bon record, Michaelangelo Dying, which is doing big numbers for Ian's fantasy team (12:08). Then they pay tribute to Foxing, the great indie-emo band who announced their hiatus this week (20:32).

After that, they discuss Getting Killed, the brilliant new LP from Geese (30:49). Then they do a "yay or nay" segment on whether Frank Ocean will ever put out another album (45:14). In the mailbag, they discuss the protest singer Jesse Welles (49:08).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the shoegaze band Total Wine and Steven talks about the British singer-songwriter Joanne Robertson (57:20).

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