·S5 E3
Person-centred planning: Conversation with Milena Johnová about inclusion (and segregation) in Czechia
Episode Description
The first Czech book on person-centred planning, and the work that inspired it.
Milena Johnová has just published the first Czech-language book on person-centred planning. In this episode, she talksabout why she wrote it, what she learned in the process, and the stories behind the work — including a woman who left an institution and now lives independently with no formal support at all, and the closure of Svojšice, an institution near Prague where over 100 people moved into lives of their own choosing.
The conversation also turns to a harder truth: Prague, one of the wealthiest regions in Europe, still sends people with disabilities to institutions hours away from their families. Johnová explains what's really driving the slow pace of deinstitutionalisation in the Czechia, and why she believes the answer starts with simply listening to people.
In this episode:
00:00 Welcome to Prague
00:43 Why Write the Book
02:54 Roots of Segregation
04:55 Alliances for Inclusion
06:45 Services vs Community
08:38 Barbora’s Journey Home
12:28 Closing Svojšice Institution
16:54 Real Choice in Practice
18:00 Prague Removing Disabled People to Institutions
23:06 Horní Poustevna Legacy
25:04 Building New Institutions
26:37 Changing Minds and Systems
29:37 Podcast Picks and Farewell