Six years after the murder of George Floyd at the hands of police and the global protests that followed, rhetoric around race in America is sliding backward. The Trump Administration has aggressively gone after DEI initiatives, and the Supreme Court has weakened a landmark piece of civil rights legislation – a decision that undermines Black voting power.

On today’s In the Loop, how are we measuring racial progress at a time when racism is so mainstream in our politics and media? Sasha is joined by Dr. Onnie Rogers, associate professor and director of the Development of Identities in Cultural Environments research group at University of Chicago, and also Danielle Robinson Bell, associate professor at Northwestern’s Medill School.

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