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What happens when we stop treating child sexual abuse as isolated “bad apples” and start seeing it as organized crime shaped by networks, money flows, and technology? We sit down with Dr. Michael Salter—criminologist, author, and global leader in child protection—to map the hidden systems that enable abuse and the practical steps that can disrupt it without re‑traumatizing survivors.

Michael shares how internet evidence shattered old myths and revealed collaborative, often sadistic offender networks operating on encrypted platforms. He explains why public awareness has surged while policy and policing lag behind, and how offender demographics—more educated, higher income, well‑networked—complicate investigations. We unpack the stark difference between high conviction rates for online offenses and the uphill battle of prosecuting intrafamilial abuse without corroborating evidence, then dive into how banks and payment rails have become crucial terrain for detection and disruption.

From the therapy room to the courtroom, we explore what it takes to support survivors of organized and extreme abuse. Michael offers grounded guidance for clinicians on pacing, reality testing, and building strong supervision so we can hold hope instead of collapsing into vicarious despair. We examine DARVO, the self‑protective reflexes of institutions, and how to prepare clients for the realities of reporting. Most importantly, we highlight shame‑sensitive, dignity‑affirming design—small details that signal worth at every step—and learn from Australia’s Royal Commission, which turned logistics into healing by treating survivors like they truly matter.

This conversation is candid, compassionate, and actionable. If you’re a therapist, advocate, policymaker, or concerned listener, you’ll leave with a clearer map of the problem and a blueprint for change: integrate therapy, law enforcement, finance, and tech; design for dignity; and keep public attention focused even when headlines shift. Subscribe, share with a colleague, and leave a review to help bring more light—and more accountability—to this work.

Learn more about Michael's work at: https://www.organisedabuse.com/

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