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Why Did Trump Fire the Nation’s Historian? (w/ Colleen Shogan)

Dec 28, 2025
30 mins

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Episode Description

Donald Trump did something no other president has ever done: he fired the Archivist of the United States — the nonpartisan official responsible for preserving America’s records and history.

John Avlon talks with former Archivist Colleen Shogan about why that decision matters, how history has become a political weapon, and what it says about power, accountability, and democracy at a moment when America is heading toward its 250th anniversary.

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