Van and Rachel welcome ‘Counter Points’ cohost Ryan Grim to discuss his and other platforms’ coverage of Charlie Kirk in the days since his death, before comedian Malik B joins to talk how he literally fought for a role in ‘Creed,’ and his new Hulu special, ‘LOL Live With Malik B.’ 

(00:00)  Intro

(10:21)  Having uncomfortable conversations

(33:27)  Ryan Grim joins the show

(1:27:28)  OG Corner: Van Jones & Stephen A. Smith

(1:54:12)  Democratic leadership

(2:05:33)  Ghostface Killa and Infinite Coles

(2:16:49)  Malik B joins the show

(2:56:10)  ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ returns

Hosts: Van Lathan Jr. and Rachel Lindsay

Guests: Ryan Grim and Malik B

Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr.

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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