What is Englishness? Why did Suella Braverman clash with Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss over immigration? And would she really join Reform UK? In this explosive episode of Heretics, Andrew Gold sits down with former Home Secretary Suella Braverman to discuss British identity, immigration, nationalism, and the deep state within the Conservative Party.

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Suella opens up about her time in Number 10, the ‘Stop the Boats’ crisis, and what really happened behind closed doors with Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss. She reveals why she believes immigration is out of control, what went wrong with the Rwanda plan, and whether Britain can ever regain control of its borders.

We also dive deep into what it means to be English, British or Asian-British in modern Britain — from the St. George’s flag controversy to national pride, religion, and the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR). Suella explains why she believes strong countries need strong identities, and how ‘human rights’ laws have been exploited to block deportations.

Finally, Andrew challenges Suella on issues like burqas, cousin marriage, and nationalism, before asking the question everyone wants to know — would she join Nigel Farage and Reform UK?

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Chapters:

0:00 Suella Braverman Highlights

1:35 Why Suella Braverman is Normal

4:05 What is Englishness?

6:35 Nationality vs Ethnicity

9:35 Nationalism Debate

12:05 We Must Copy Israel’s Nationalism

13:35 St. George’s Flag Controversy

15:35 Why We Brought In So Many Immigrants

17:35 What Suella Said To Rishi and Liz

21:35 The Deep State & Stopping the Boats

25:05 Can We Ever Trust The Tories Again?

26:50 How Has Islam Changed Your Life

28:35 What’s Suella’s Ancestry?

31:35 Andrew’s Dog Test

33:35 Burqas and 1st Cousin Marriage

36:35 We Have Too Many People

39:35 Would Suella Join Reform?

41:35 Can the Tories Win?

43:35 Harry Kane Analogy With Reform

47:35 What Actually Is The ECHR?

50:35 Why Rwanda Failed

53:35 Can We Get Out Of The ECHR?

56:35 How ‘Human Rights’ Are Exploited

59:35 Where Kemi & Tories Stand

1:00:35 The Origin of Suella’s Name

1:03:35 Keir Starmer’s ‘Management Speak’

1:05:35 Why Suella Lost Her Job

1:07:35 The Jews Love Suella

1:10:35 A Heretic Suella Admires

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