NBC News’ “Meet the Press” moderator Kristen Welker sat down for an exclusive interview with Venezuelan acting President Delcy Rodriguez and U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright in Caracas to talk about the future of Venezuela. Welker joins the podcast to explain how Rodriguez balances her relationship with the U.S. and her allegiance to the ousted President Nicolás Maduro, and what Wright says about who is running Venezuela and U.S. leverage in the country. Plus, border czar Tom Homan announced the end of Operation Metro Surge in Minneapolis. NBC News News Senior Homeland Security Correspondent Julia Ainsley explains how this withdrawal is part of the Trump administration’s larger immigration and border security strategy.

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