Host Troy Baker, showrunners Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann, and co-writer of this episode as well as The Last of Us Part II game, Halley Gross, discuss the epic season finale. The group chats about the showdown we’ve all been waiting for between Ellie and Abby, what the cliffhanger tells us about Season 3, and what excites them most about making the next season.

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