Dr. Ellen Langer is a social psychologist and professor at Harvard University, widely regarded as the "mother of mindfulness." Her groundbreaking research explores how mindset influences health, aging, and performance, emphasizing the power of awareness in everyday life. She is the author of several influential books, including Mindfulness and The Mindful Body, which challenge assumptions about control, perception, and well-being. Dr. Langer’s decades of work have transformed how psychology understands the connection between mind and body.

In our conversation we discuss:

(00:00) – Defining mindlessness: autopilot, past-driven behavior

(00:49) – Mindfulness beyond meditation: simply noticing change

(01:21) – Embrace uncertainty to pay attention

(02:07) – Find novelty in the familiar

(04:29) – Question assumptions; rules change with context

(11:03) – Mind–body unity vs inherited dualism

(14:03) – Placebo shows belief shapes physiology

(15:57) – “Counterclockwise”: mindset rejuvenates aging markers

(17:31) – Reframing work as exercise improves health

(19:35) – Perceived time alters healing and glucose

(22:09) – Fatigue depends on framing and context

(24:31) – Challenge human “limits”; language shapes ability

(28:15) – Prefer mindful imperfection over robotic perfection

(33:27) – Behavior makes sense from actor’s perspective

(36:47) – GLADO: generous, loving, authentic, direct, open

(39:31) – Events are neutral; interpretations create stress

(55:39) – Language reframes: forgive/blame, try/hope, remission/cure

(1:03:47) – Mindful performance elevates art and creativity

(1:07:04) – Keep relationships fresh by noticing change

(1:14:34) – Daily cues: notice, reframe, play, stay curious

Learn more about Dr. Langer:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Langerhttps://psychology.fas.harvard.edu/people/ellen-langer

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