In this special episode, we share another conversation the team had this past May in São Paulo, Brazil at the conference titled "A Public Gospel: Evangelicals, Neo-Calvinists, and Society" held at Mackenzie University. We sat down with Gayle Doornbos, Associate Professor of Theology at Dordt University, to discuss a theology of suffering.

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