The world is getting more dangerous. The closure of the Straight of Hormuz has sent shock waves around the world. The price of oil has skyrocketed and with fuel shortages now reaching Asia, Australia faces 'crunch time' on its energy security.

So how vulnerable are we right now? And how do our perceptions shape our foreign policy? 

Rory Medcalf from the ANU's National Security College has been studying how our security expectations match up our reality. He joins Hamish Macdonald and Kylie Morris to talk about why public opinion matters. 

Guest: Professor Rory Medcalf, Director of the ANU's National Security College. 

Further reading: 

Report - No worries? Australian attitudes to national security, risk and resilience

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