The roles of Frodo and Sam are reversed after the escape from Cirith Ungol. While Frodo, without hope, can only will to go on, Sam, finding hope in light, water and the beauty of a star, becomes the resourceful and resilient leader. Patrick and Andrew note the doubt that afflicts Sauron in spite of his mighty empire, which in the end is doomed to self-destruction.

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