Today, we're joined by Eric Ries, the author of The Lean Startup and the founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange.

Eric wrote the book that taught a generation of founders how to build under uncertainty, and he has spent the years since trying to fix what happens to those companies once they grow.

His new book, Incorruptible, is about a double mystery: why successful companies so often get ruined, and why a handful avoid that fate.

Tommy Stadlen and Cameron McLain talk to Eric about why he thinks the best practices of modern corporate governance destroy value, why he believes a strong founder is not enough to protect a company, and what he'd change about The Lean Startup if he could go back.

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Music credits: Bubble King written and produced by Cameron McLain and Stevan Cablayan aka Vector_XING.

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