What happens when the most productive thing you can do is learn to bend?

In this episode of GUTS, host Topaz Adizes sits down with Ivan Saldaña, PhD biologist, master distiller, and co-founder of Casa Lumbre. After years building brands at the intersection of biology, culture, and commerce, Ivan has arrived at a new chapter, one that asks him to look inward as fiercely as he has always looked outward.

In this episode, we explore:

- Growing up in a household where storytelling was survival

- Why agaves only become extraordinary under restriction

- Building brands rooted in biology, not mythology

- What it means to lead a growing team through your own transformation

- Moving from achievement to legacy, and learning to teach what you know

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