S04E07 - Kohei Saito, Christoph Sorg and Jan Groos on Creative Construction and the Struggle over Progress

June 21
1h 46m

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Kohei Saito, Christoph Sorg and Jan Groos discuss democratic planning in the 21st century. 

Future Histories LIVE.

This episode is part of the ‘Future Histories LIVE’ format. For this, individual episodes are recorded live – that is, in front of an audience – at irregular intervals. This episode is the live recording of a book launch and discussion event that took place on June 11, 2026 at the NACHTASYL Hamburg: 

https://www.thalia-theater.de/de/stuecke/creative-construction-and-the-struggle-over-progress-democratic-planning-in-the-21st-century/361


The video recording of the event can be found on our Youtube-Channel: 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfRFz38oh9RH73-pWcME6yw


Shownotes 


Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (2026). Creative Construction. Demokratische Planung im 21. Jahrhundert. Brumaire. 

https://brumaireverlag.myshopify.com/products/creative-construction


Saito, K. (2026). Am Ende des Fortschritts. Überleben in den Ruinen des Kapitalismus. dtv.

https://www.dtv.de/buch/am-ende-des-fortschritts-28534


NACHTASYL Hamburg and Thalia Theater: 

http://nachtasyl.de/

https://www.thalia-theater.de/de


on Friedrich von Hayek:  

https://geschichte.univie.ac.at/de/personen/friedrich-august-von-hayek


Saito, K. (2023). Systemsturz. dtv.    

https://www.dtv.de/buch/systemsturz-28369


Cédric Durand at the University of Geneva: 

https://www.unige.ch/sciences-societe/dehes/membres/cedric-durand


Philipp Staab at Humboldt University Berlin: 

https://www.sowi.hu-berlin.de/de/lehrbereiche/zukunftarbeit/mitarbeiter_innen/pstaab


Jacob Blumenfeld with Critical Theory in Berlin: 

https://criticaltheoryinberlin.de/people/jacob-blumenfeld/


on the Dark Enlightenment (or Neo-Reactionary) movement: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/dark-enlightenment/

Curtis Yarvin coined the term as Blogger under the pseudonym Mencius Moldbug

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

Nick Land summarised Yarvin's theories in a book: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land


Linus Westheuser and ‘climate populism’:

https://linuswestheuser.com/

Westheuser, L. & Siebert, J. (2025). Warum wir Klimapopulismus brauchen. Surplus.  

https://www.surplusmagazin.de/warum-wir-einen-klimapopulismus-brauchen/


For the chapters on ‘models’ by Jakob Heyer, Stefan Meretz and Simon Sutterlütti see: 

https://brumaireverlag.myshopify.com/products/creative-construction


on Karl Polanyi: 

International Karl Polanyi Institute (2019). Karl Polanyi. Life and Works of an Epochal Thinker. Falter. 

https://www.karlpolanyisociety.com/


Benanav, A. (2025). Beyond Capitalism I-II. New Left Review. 

https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii153/articles/aaron-benanav-beyond-capitalism-1

https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii154/articles/aaron-benanav-beyond-capitalism-2


Herrmann, U. (2024). Das Ende des Kapitalismus. Warum Wachstum und Klimaschutz nicht vereinbar sind – und wie wir in Zukunft leben werden. Kiepenheuer & Witsch. 

https://www.kiwi-verlag.de/buch/ulrike-herrmann-das-ende-des-kapitalismus-9783462007015


Neckel, S. (2022). Infrastruktursozialismus: Die Bedeutung der Fundamentalökonomie. In Kapitalismus und Nachhaltigkeit (Ed. S. Neckel, P. Degens, S. Lenz). Campus. 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362107108_Infrastruktursozialismus_Die_Bedeutung_der_Fundamentalokonomie


on Claus Offe and the 'legitimation crisis':

Offe, C. (1986). Strukturprobleme des kapitalistischen Staates: Aufsätze zur Politischen Soziologie. Suhrkamp.

https://www.amazon.de/Strukturprobleme-kapitalistischen-Staates-Politischen-Soziologie/dp/3518105493


Krippner, G. R. (2012). Capitalizing on Crisis. The Political Origins of the Rise of Finance. Harvard University Press.

https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674066199


Menon, N. (2024). Planning Democracy. How a Professor, an Institute, and an Idea Shaped India. Penguin India.  

https://www.penguin.co.in/book/planning-democracy/


Blumenfeld, J. P. (2024). Managing Decline. Cured Quail (3). 

https://www.academia.edu/121062536/Managing_Decline


Mau, S. (2023). Mute Compulsion. A Marxist Theory of the Economic Power of Capital. Verso. 

https://www.versobooks.com/products/2759-mute-compulsion?srsltid=AfmBOooxWbwMWcWT7UUqrlpAT2yXYPK6B5TSR59_IAoxYR_lp_wpSTgf


Struwe, A. (2025). Totalität. Marx, Adorno und das Problem kritischer Gesellschaftstheorie. Verbrecher Verlag. 

https://www.verbrecherverlag.de/shop/totalitaet/


on Nancy Fraser and the question on ‘demos’ (exemplary): 

Fraser, N. (2005). Reframing Justice in a Globalizing World. New Left Review. 

https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii36/articles/nancy-fraser-reframing-justice-in-a-globalizing-world


Rikap, C. (2025). A Progressive Roadmap for Expanding European Digital Sovereignty. Policy Brief. FEPS. 

https://feps-europe.eu/publication/a-progressive-roadmap-for-expanding-european-digital-sovereignty/


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https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e59-cedric-durand-on-ecological-planning/


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https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e53-philipp-staab-zur-systemkrise/


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