In this episode, Corey Nathan and I explore the importance of curiosity, nuance, and persistent dialogue in bridging political and cultural divides. They discuss how small, relational interactions can influence societal change and the value of staying in community despite differences.

key topics

* The role of curiosity and nuance in political and religious conversations

* The importance of staying in community despite disagreements

* The metaphor of salt and soup to illustrate influence and change

* The concept of dissidence versus activism in fighting for democracy

* The impact of relational, not transactional, dialogue on societal change

* The importance of persistent engagement and asking questions

* The influence of historical thinkers like Hannah Arendt and Orwell

* The significance of election integrity and structural political work

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