624. The Animal No One Loves, Until They Do

Feb 28, 2025
45 mins

Episode Description

To most people, the rat is vile and villainous. But not to everyone! We hear from a scientist who befriended rats and another who worked with them in the lab — and from the animator who made one the hero of a Pixar blockbuster. (Part three of a three-part series, “Sympathy for the Rat.”)

 

  • SOURCES:
    • Bethany Brookshire, author of Pests: How Humans Create Animal Villains
    • Jan Pinkava, creator and co-writer of "Ratatouille," and director of the Animation Institute at the Film Academy Baden-Württemberg.
    • Julia Zichello, evolutionary biologist at Hunter College.

 


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