While Josh is on vacation, Ben chats with guests Will King and John Nunemaker about the process and perils of trying to ship reliably. 

• https://www.wking.dev/logs/shipping-in-layers
• https://longform.asmartbear.com/slc/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
• https://archive.ph/20130719182750/http://www.businessballs.com/treeswing.htm
• https://www.amazon.com/How-Fight-Hydra-Ambitions-Destined-ebook/dp/B07J57YF47