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What happens when the life you’ve been managing no longer fits?

Jen Hatmaker sits down with Nedra Glover Tawwab, Emily Nagoski, Kobe Campbell, and Kate Bowler for an honest conversation about what it really means to wake up in midlife.

Together, they explore where awakening often shows up first—our relationships, bodies, mental health, and faith. This isn’t about fixing yourself. It’s about noticing what’s shifting, understanding why it feels disruptive, and realizing you’re not alone.

From boundaries and burnout to anxiety, trauma, body shame, and faith after certainty, this episode offers language and clarity for women navigating midlife change with courage.

If you’ve ever thought, Something’s changing—and I don’t know what to do with it, this conversation is for you.

Thought-provoking Quotes:

“You’re not broken. You’re paying attention.” — Jen Hatmaker

“Midlife clarity isn’t cruelty. It’s information.” — Nedra Glover Tawwab

“Healing doesn’t mean you stop feeling. It means your responses finally make sense.” — Kobe Campbell

“Anxiety can bring clarity—but it’s not meant to be the fuel forever.” — Kobe Campbell

“You don’t complete stress by thinking it through. You complete it by letting it move through your body.” — Emily Nagoski

“Certainty falling away doesn’t mean faith is gone. It means it’s growing up.” — Kate Bowler

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself by Nedra Glover Tawwab – https://amzn.to/4rhSzofThe Balancing Act: Creating Healthy Dependency and Connection Without Losing Yourself by Nedra Glover Tawwab – https://amzn.to/46cF4hgCome As You Are: Revised and Updated: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life by Emily Nagoski – https://www.amazon.com/Come-You-Are-Surprising-Transform/dp/1982165316/

• Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily Nagoski – https://amzn.to/3MgTXIK

• Why Am I Like This?: How to Break Cycles, Heal from Trauma, and Restore Your Faith by Kobe Campbell – https://amzn.to/4qIMqR9

• Joyful, Anyway by Kate Bowler – https://amzn.to/3MdyfW3

• Everything Happens podcast with Kate Bowler – https://katebowler.com/podcasts/

Nedra’s Links:

Website - https://www.nedratawwab.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/nedratawwab/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/nedratawwab/- 

Substack - https://nedratawwab.substack.com/

Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-need-to-hear-this-with-nedra-tawwab/id1686288228

Emily’s Links:

Website - https://www.emilynagoski.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/enagoski/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/emilynagoskiphd/

TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@emilynagoski

Substack - https://substack.com/@emilynagoski

Podcast - https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/come-as-you-are

Kobe’s Links:

Website - https://kobecampbell.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kobecampbell_/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheKobeCampbell/

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheKobeCampbell

Substack - https://substack.com/@kobecampbell

Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-healing-circle-podcast-with-kobe-campbell/id1448504061

Kate’s Links:

Website - https://katebowler.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/katecbowler/

Twitter - https://x.com/katecbowler

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/katecbowler

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf8m7lNdR7YVieU0muCg5cg

TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@katecbowler

Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com/katecbowler/

Substack - https://katebowler.substack.com/

Podcast - https://katebowler.com/podcasts/

Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

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