Urban tells about his new job, and how it's quite different than the previous one. Monica thinks about her future and what kind of job to do next.

• Martijn Doolaard (renovating in the Italian Alps)

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Where to find Monica on the internet:

• Website: monicag.me
• Mastodon: @nirnaeth@mastodon.online
• Github: @nirnaeth
• Blog: dev.to/nirnaeth

Where to find Urban on the internet:

• Mastodon: @ujh@masto.ai
• Github: @ujh
• Blog: urbanhafner.com

The intro and outro music is Our Big Adventure by Scott Holmes. It's licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0).