Nora and Nathan discuss Taylor Swift's induction into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and what the speech she gave during the ceremony reveals about her songwriting process (1:00). Then they answer some lingering questions about Olivia Rodrigo's album 'you seem pretty sad for a girl so in love,' including where this lands her in the Grammy contention conversation (27:54) and if "expectations" could be the song of the summer (43:21).
Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard
Producer: Kaya McMullen

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