If you seek a pleasant podcast, look before you! Lakes, islands and peninsulas abound in Janet Varney and John Hodgman’s trip through Michigan.

That motto sure is a dandy, in latin or in english. Is it great enough to earn high marks on our grading system? We take a look. And then there’s all the islands within islands AND our wonderful Yoopers who we’re sure to give lots of time and care to.

Plus, we’re joined by the delightful Marc Evan Jackson who tells us all about how Michigan has affected his life and career. You can read about one big example, “The Coney.” 

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