John Livingstone is the Head of Digital Policy at UNICEF Australia. He's been talking directly to students about how the Australian social media ban is affecting young people, and whether it's making their lives better.

This is Rae's full conversation with John. You can hear a broader analysis of the social media ban in our recent episode.

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This is the first edition of our 'on the down-low' series -- longer standalone interviews with interesting people in the tech world.

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