"The point of a planner is to make your life easier, not be a source of guilt and stress."
- Ursula Vernon (T. Kingfisher)

Mur Lafferty and Ursula Vernon are back and dive into the chaotic world of writing! We talk about everything from  the trials of managing multiple projects to the absurdities of planner systems. (And talk about a bunch of options we've tried!)

Mur shares her recent experiences with her latest book, while Ursula discusses her creative process and the challenges of staying organized as a writer.

We also explore the joys (and pitfalls) of social media and how it impacts our creative lives. 

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Links: 

• Ursula Vernon (T. Kingfisher)
• NaNoWriMo 2.0
• Animal Crossing
• Pokemon Legends Z to A
• Traveler's Company
• Roterfaden
• Hobonichi

Evergreen Links:

• Ursula Vernon/T. Kingfisher
• Mur Lafferty
• Mur on Focusmate!
• Mur on Instagram, Youtube
• Support via Patreon! 
• Theme song by Devo Spice

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Ditch Diggers credits:
theme song by Devo Spice, art by Numbers Ninja,
site hosted by Libsyn (or Patreon).

November 9, 2024 | Season 11 Ep 9 | murverse.com
"Dusty Hats and Burnt Out Pokemon Trainers" by Mur Lafferty and Ursula Vernon
is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0