[{"_1":2,"_405":-5,"_406":-5},"loaderData",{"_3":4,"_11":12},"root",{"_5":6,"_7":8,"_9":10},"theme",0,"baseURL","https://pocketcasts.com","locale","en","routes/_app.podcast.$podcastSlug.$podcastUuid.$episodeSlug.$episodeUuid",{"_13":14,"_15":16,"_17":18},"podcastUuid","a66d7a60-819f-013e-baeb-0acc26574db2","episodeUuid","cdc48c63-5b26-4eda-99c1-07ce366d5f56","dehydratedState",{"_19":20,"_21":22},"mutations",[],"queries",[23,399],{"_24":25,"_26":27,"_393":394,"_397":398},"dehydratedAt",1772709477803,"state",{"_28":29,"_379":75,"_380":381,"_382":-5,"_383":6,"_384":6,"_385":6,"_386":-5,"_387":-5,"_388":54,"_389":390,"_391":392},"data",{"_30":31,"_32":33,"_34":35,"_36":37,"_38":39,"_40":41,"_42":43,"_44":45,"_46":47,"_48":14,"_49":50,"_51":52,"_53":54,"_55":45,"_56":57,"_371":372,"_373":374,"_375":376,"_377":45,"_378":75},"url","https://shows.acast.com/dette-ma-aldri-skje-igjen","title","Dette må aldri skje igjen","slug","dette-må-aldri-skje-igjen","author","FENOMEN & Acast","description","Magnus Devold og Marco Reinertsen går gjennom historiske katastrofer og ser på hva, hvorfor og hvordan det gikk galt. Hva kan vi lære av dem til våre egne liv? Hvordan unngår vi at de skjer igjen?Marco og Magnus ønsker å lære. For de gjør også feil. Men de har i hvert fall ikke giftet seg med en amerikansk sjaman i Geiranger. Ikke ennå, hvert fall.Instagram: @dettemaaldriskjeigjenTiktok: @dettemaaldriskjeigjenKontakt oss der, eller på podkast@fenomen.no.Podkasten er produsert av Fenomen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","description_html","

Magnus Devold og Marco Reinertsen går gjennom historiske katastrofer og ser på hva, hvorfor og hvordan det gikk galt.

Hva kan vi lære av dem til våre egne liv? Hvordan unngår vi at de skjer igjen?

Marco og Magnus ønsker å lære. For de gjør også feil. Men de har i hvert fall ikke giftet seg med en amerikansk sjaman i Geiranger.

Ikke ennå, hvert fall.

Instagram: @dettemaaldriskjeigjen

Tiktok: @dettemaaldriskjeigjen

Kontakt oss der, eller på podkast@fenomen.no.

Podkasten er produsert av Fenomen.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

","category","Comedy\nHistory\nSociety & Culture","audio",true,"show_type","episodic","uuid","fundings",[],"guid","","is_private",false,"transcript_eligible","episodes",[58,78,87,96,105,113,122,131,140,149,158,167,176,185,194,203,212,221,230,239,248,257,266,275,284,293,302,311,320,329,338,347,355,363],{"_48":59,"_32":60,"_34":61,"_30":62,"_63":64,"_65":66,"_67":68,"_69":70,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":77,"_13":14},"cf0faea3-0db1-4326-84fb-bc5fce88c1da","Apen Julius med Nora Svenningsen","apen-julius-med-nora-svenningsen","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69a8a5c7345da197e00ffb1e/media.mp3","file_type","audio/mp3","file_size",98869568,"duration",2471,"published","2026-03-05T05:00:00Z","type","full","has_generated_transcript","season",1,"number",33,{"_48":79,"_32":80,"_34":81,"_30":82,"_63":64,"_65":83,"_67":84,"_69":85,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":86,"_13":14},"9a3f42a6-d723-4f4e-a87b-fb28e974ec41","Det verste fra Premier League","det-verste-fra-premier-league","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69a5913616315a936f2e076d/media.mp3",83966528,2099,"2026-03-03T05:00:00Z",32,{"_48":88,"_32":89,"_34":90,"_30":91,"_63":64,"_65":92,"_67":93,"_69":94,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":95,"_13":14},"0ba576c7-e80b-4155-aba1-4da9cb1defc4","MGPjr","mgpjr","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/699ecdf643ceb0105db95a46/media.mp3",66713408,1667,"2026-02-26T05:00:00Z",31,{"_48":97,"_32":98,"_34":99,"_30":100,"_63":64,"_65":101,"_67":102,"_69":103,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":104,"_13":14},"828ff655-d6ca-4845-84fe-352dbb449d8f","Melodi Grand Prix-katastrofer","melodi-grand-prix-katastrofer","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/699c326168ec8626d217a462/media.mp3",107621888,2690,"2026-02-24T05:00:00Z",30,{"_48":16,"_32":106,"_34":107,"_30":108,"_63":64,"_65":109,"_67":110,"_69":111,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":112,"_13":14},"Thorbjørn Jagland","thorbjørn-jagland","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/6995a28008b58c2f934626a9/media.mp3",82195328,2054,"2026-02-19T02:00:00Z",29,{"_48":114,"_32":115,"_34":116,"_30":117,"_63":64,"_65":118,"_67":119,"_69":120,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":121,"_13":14},"072302e4-7c72-49e4-92de-c46f164ac906","Black Metal-drapene","black-metal-drapene","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69934dbed85aecd27a543949/media.mp3",90171968,2254,"2026-02-17T05:00:00Z",28,{"_48":123,"_32":124,"_34":125,"_30":126,"_63":64,"_65":127,"_67":128,"_69":129,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":130,"_13":14},"91710bbf-bc0e-4c7d-b8bc-6f3769b8e3b7","Johaugs doping og OLs verste skiløper","johaugs-doping-og-ols-verste-skiløper","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/697fc0909a56fea508cd7a04/media.mp3",51887168,1297,"2026-02-12T05:00:00Z",27,{"_48":132,"_32":133,"_34":134,"_30":135,"_63":64,"_65":136,"_67":137,"_69":138,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":139,"_13":14},"606e8fba-489c-42f3-991f-0f0f4bd9f2bd","Tørnquists favorittflauser","tørnquists-favorittflauser","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/698a2d1268c8ed48f053f9ec/media.mp3",64432448,1610,"2026-02-10T05:00:00Z",26,{"_48":141,"_32":142,"_34":143,"_30":144,"_63":64,"_65":145,"_67":146,"_69":147,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":148,"_13":14},"6aa8ae6f-b936-4dfa-a8a9-455b3f7cd52f","Epsteins kontakt med nordmenn","epsteins-kontakt-med-nordmenn","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69835e1e914e9e7f52a60922/media.mp3",75124928,1878,"2026-02-05T05:00:00Z",25,{"_48":150,"_32":151,"_34":152,"_30":153,"_63":64,"_65":154,"_67":155,"_69":156,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":157,"_13":14},"dfb5e4a5-54b2-40e1-8193-b1b053355542","Vinter-OL-skandaler","vinter-ol-skandaler","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/697fbeae3dc163046e55ee5c/media.mp3",93278528,2331,"2026-02-03T05:00:00Z",24,{"_48":159,"_32":160,"_34":161,"_30":162,"_63":64,"_65":163,"_67":164,"_69":165,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":166,"_13":14},"d38c3f38-ef4a-4c99-80ce-2831cda4119d","Bonus: Norske gründer-skandaler","bonus-norske-gründer-skandaler","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/6977915849ef755216deb20d/media.mp3",42175808,1054,"2026-01-29T05:00:00Z",23,{"_48":168,"_32":169,"_34":170,"_30":171,"_63":64,"_65":172,"_67":173,"_69":174,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":175,"_13":14},"6f1caabc-4cdb-4004-bbd4-ecb69c452ded","Trump før han ble president","trump-før-han-ble-president","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69777317f4b515342e33380d/media.mp3",112928768,2823,"2026-01-27T05:00:00Z",22,{"_48":177,"_32":178,"_34":179,"_30":180,"_63":64,"_65":181,"_67":182,"_69":183,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":184,"_13":14},"320e3f83-7e47-4ef3-b859-67c90b09cf23","Bonus: Nordmenn i utlandet","bonus-nordmenn-i-utlandet","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/696fa73591e0adb30b9e1219/media.mp3",51507968,1287,"2026-01-22T05:00:00Z",21,{"_48":186,"_32":187,"_34":188,"_30":189,"_63":64,"_65":190,"_67":191,"_69":192,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":193,"_13":14},"599c11a8-771c-4739-ab0f-231152b5604f","Moland og French i Kongo","moland-og-french-i-kongo","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/696e67ed98f7a1123eebe0e4/media.mp3",88091648,2202,"2026-01-20T05:00:00Z",20,{"_48":195,"_32":196,"_34":197,"_30":198,"_63":64,"_65":199,"_67":200,"_69":201,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":202,"_13":14},"47fb8981-8151-4bc2-a7f3-5f0120dedb29","Bonus: Offentlige meltdowns","bonus-offentlige-meltdowns","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69675c657efeb74bf7f6a5eb/media.mp3",92970368,2324,"2026-01-15T05:00:00Z",19,{"_48":204,"_32":205,"_34":206,"_30":207,"_63":64,"_65":208,"_67":209,"_69":210,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":211,"_13":14},"ceb3843c-c37c-4cec-8626-f562832d9a3e","Britney Spears","britney-spears","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/696515a91f21449d6dca46c5/media.mp3",100326016,2508,"2026-01-13T04:00:00Z",18,{"_48":213,"_32":214,"_34":215,"_30":216,"_63":64,"_65":217,"_67":218,"_69":219,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":220,"_13":14},"f91a56b7-e5d9-48f1-9e31-86ddc44e511f","Bonusmateriale og oppdateringer","bonusmateriale-og-oppdateringer","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/695c220d52eada8779a24e6b/media.mp3",110478976,2761,"2026-01-06T04:00:00Z",17,{"_48":222,"_32":223,"_34":224,"_30":225,"_63":64,"_65":226,"_67":227,"_69":228,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":229,"_13":14},"d6f2aba4-5373-4ab8-8530-360eaaef726d","Julespesial","julespesial","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/694a843007910b1244da7016/media.mp3",69446656,1736,"2025-12-30T05:00:00Z",16,{"_48":231,"_32":232,"_34":233,"_30":234,"_63":64,"_65":235,"_67":236,"_69":237,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":238,"_13":14},"a72a9b87-1064-465f-ae49-fba3a978cef7","Året 2025 del 2","året-2025-del-2","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/694536eb9ff9a18986a824c1/media.mp3",71787008,1794,"2025-12-23T05:00:00Z",15,{"_48":240,"_32":241,"_34":242,"_30":243,"_63":64,"_65":244,"_67":245,"_69":246,"_71":72,"_73":45,"_74":75,"_76":247,"_13":14},"829c60e0-2788-43e5-ad79-c43ed889ece8","Året 2025 del 1","året-2025-del-1","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/693fe5b9891c3619dc081c8e/media.mp3",80497088,2013,"2025-12-16T05:00:00Z",14,{"_48":249,"_32":250,"_34":251,"_30":252,"_63":64,"_65":253,"_67":254,"_69":255,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":256,"_13":14},"b3472e92-4f03-4630-afb7-0f6b1060e21e","Norge i fotball-VM 98","norge-i-fotball-vm-98","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/69370160fe31b2ca09d29c11/media.mp3",103540928,2588,"2025-12-09T05:00:00Z",13,{"_48":258,"_32":259,"_34":260,"_30":261,"_63":64,"_65":262,"_67":263,"_69":264,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":265,"_13":14},"195df4d4-4484-47d8-928a-43919de1033e","Helge Ingstad med Marius Thorkildsen","helge-ingstad-med-marius-thorkildsen","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/692dbac48b4530ad2f2e8363/media.mp3",86647808,2166,"2025-12-02T05:00:00Z",12,{"_48":267,"_32":268,"_34":269,"_30":270,"_63":64,"_65":271,"_67":272,"_69":273,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":274,"_13":14},"81356a0c-0ea4-49b0-b71c-a722e4b95c51","Mokkamann-skandalen med Isalill Kolpus","mokkamann-skandalen-med-isalill-kolpus","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/692462c5fdac24dcbf6858de/media.mp3",93510848,2337,"2025-11-25T05:00:00Z",11,{"_48":276,"_32":277,"_34":278,"_30":279,"_63":64,"_65":280,"_67":281,"_69":282,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":283,"_13":14},"39813239-f5ac-4b36-a986-fb1d9064c93c","Orderud-saken med Lars Berrum","orderud-saken-med-lars-berrum","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/691b36d8589629f7d674111e/media.mp3",90094208,2252,"2025-11-18T05:00:00Z",10,{"_48":285,"_32":286,"_34":287,"_30":288,"_63":64,"_65":289,"_67":290,"_69":291,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":292,"_13":14},"7be2ed26-78b5-4612-916f-949f9536c787","Siste nytt om Fritzl, sexpress hos Dan Børge og innboks","siste-nytt-om-fritzl-sexpress-hos-dan-børge-og-innboks","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/690ddcc67728b8766cbcefc7/media.mp3",33013568,825,"2025-11-11T05:00:00Z",9,{"_48":294,"_32":295,"_34":296,"_30":297,"_63":64,"_65":298,"_67":299,"_69":300,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":301,"_13":14},"82529258-d7fc-4fcf-b387-18a75b339cc6","Michael Jacksons privatliv","michael-jacksons-privatliv","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/6908dcb4fdc0dff06dfebf3a/media.mp3",96796928,2419,"2025-11-04T05:00:00Z",8,{"_48":303,"_32":304,"_34":305,"_30":306,"_63":64,"_65":307,"_67":308,"_69":309,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":310,"_13":14},"2bcdcd69-9352-4108-957b-a456e657ac27","Josef Fritzl","josef-fritzl","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68ffa045e0f934b5d12127ed/media.mp3",89407808,2235,"2025-10-28T05:00:00Z",7,{"_48":312,"_32":313,"_34":314,"_30":315,"_63":64,"_65":316,"_67":317,"_69":318,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":319,"_13":14},"8c6cd323-801c-454f-ad49-94bab8e28bd4","Dan Børge forsvinner i luftballong","dan-børge-forsvinner-i-luftballong","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68f6ac3380f266774093bde0/media.mp3",76586048,1914,"2025-10-21T04:00:00Z",6,{"_48":321,"_32":322,"_34":323,"_30":324,"_63":64,"_65":325,"_67":326,"_69":327,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":328,"_13":14},"17a0770c-c31c-482c-a565-38b08521502f","Norge i fotball-VM 94","norge-i-fotball-vm-94","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68ed7866885527a436d0071b/media.mp3",96175808,2404,"2025-10-14T04:00:00Z",5,{"_48":330,"_32":331,"_34":332,"_30":333,"_63":64,"_65":334,"_67":335,"_69":336,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":337,"_13":14},"fe8fb5b9-38bd-4f0c-9900-81ee209ea767","9/11 - Del 2","911-del-2","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68e6c08f912b7d45fb9430ae/media.mp3",68113088,1702,"2025-10-09T04:00:00Z",4,{"_48":339,"_32":340,"_34":341,"_30":342,"_63":64,"_65":343,"_67":344,"_69":345,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":346,"_13":14},"4388d76f-d6e6-462a-87df-3dca2e02a98e","9/11 - Del 1","911-del-1","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68e442d01601518de079a2c1/media.mp3",90848768,2271,"2025-10-07T04:00:00Z",3,{"_48":348,"_32":349,"_34":350,"_30":351,"_63":64,"_65":352,"_67":353,"_69":354,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":75,"_13":14},"fd70bf63-c608-43a3-8459-5137364755da","Stormingen av Kongressen","stormingen-av-kongressen","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68dd415d6d92c33f9ccd3c56/media.mp3",84363008,2109,"2025-10-02T04:00:00Z",{"_48":356,"_32":357,"_34":358,"_30":359,"_63":64,"_65":360,"_67":361,"_69":354,"_71":72,"_73":54,"_74":75,"_76":362,"_13":14},"1161a6c1-f428-4dde-ae0a-6f892e258737","Havnesjefen","havnesjefen","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68dd43d346a2532cddd39435/media.mp3",92274368,2306,2,{"_48":364,"_32":365,"_34":366,"_30":367,"_63":64,"_65":368,"_67":157,"_69":369,"_71":370,"_73":54,"_13":14},"3091c5d4-e2cc-408c-89dd-f9b5c63c70db","Dette må aldri skje igjen - KOMMER!","dette-må-aldri-skje-igjen-kommer","https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68d3ea4207474c67715971de/e/68dbe26b09b1c365e45ff188/media.mp3",967808,"2025-09-30T14:51:37Z","trailer","episodeFrequency","Unknown","estimatedNextEpisodeAt","2026-03-10T05:00:00Z","episodeCount",34,"hasSeasons","seasonCount","dataUpdateCount","dataUpdatedAt",1772709477174,"error","errorUpdateCount","errorUpdatedAt","fetchFailureCount","fetchFailureReason","fetchMeta","isInvalidated","status","success","fetchStatus","idle","queryKey",[395,396,14],"podcasts","detail","queryHash","[\"podcasts\",\"detail\",\"a66d7a60-819f-013e-baeb-0acc26574db2\"]",{"_24":25,"_26":400,"_393":402,"_397":404},{"_28":401,"_379":75,"_380":25,"_382":-5,"_383":6,"_384":6,"_385":6,"_386":-5,"_387":-5,"_388":54,"_389":390,"_391":392},"Tross en lang rekke toppjobber, har Thorbjørn Jagland ikke alltid lykkes med det han har drevet med. Kanskje til og med det stikk motsatte.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

",[403,396,16],"episodeShowNotes","[\"episodeShowNotes\",\"detail\",\"cdc48c63-5b26-4eda-99c1-07ce366d5f56\"]","actionData","errors"]

Thorbjørn Jagland

Episode Description

Never lose your place, on any device