In this episode, we sit down with Paul Liu, a lead systemsengineer at NASA Ames Research Center and co-producer of the Full Gospel Time podcast. Paul's story is one of divine guidance through unexpected transitions—from two decades in the semiconductor industry to finding his calling among the hangars and runways of NASA, where he now works on federated airspace management for the future of autonomous flight.

Paul opens up about his "wilderness season" afterlosing his management position during a corporate restructuring, and how that period became a catalyst for spiritual growth and self-discovery. His journey to NASA wasn't something he planned or even imagined—but the moment he walked onto that campus, he knew he belonged.

Paul also discusses producing Full Gospel Time—a podcastreaching Mandarin-speaking Christians. Paul shares inspiring stories and biblical truths, reminding us that sometimes a single episode can bring hope to someone in their darkest season.

Whether you're stuck in a job that feels meaningless, navigating a career transition, or simply trying to understand how your faith intersects with your work, Paul's story offers wisdom, encouragement, and a powerful reminder: God is leading us toward our destiny—not just our destination.

More on Paul:

- Full Gospel Time (全福時間) Podcast

- Space Shuttle Image

- Hangar Image

Topics Covered:

- Ames Research Center - NASA

- Hangar One (Moffett Federal Airfield) - Wikipedia

- Lockheed C-5 Galaxy - Wikipedia

- Federated Airspace Management

Scripture Index:

God’s Placement in Time and Location

Acts 17:26-27, Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28

Peace That Transcends Circumstances

Philippians 4:6-7, John 14:27,

Serving Others and Living Out Faith

Helping the Least is Helping Jesus

Matthew 25:40

Serving Others and Living Out Faith

Colossians 3:23-24, Galatians 5:13

Gifts, Talents, Missions, and Destiny

1 Peter 4:10, Ephesians 2:10, Romans 12:6-8, Matthew 25:14-30, Psalm 138:8, Proverbs 19:21, Philippians 2:13

The Body of Christ

1 Corinthians 12:12-27, Ephesians 4:14-16

Christ is the Head of the Church

Ephesians 4:15

Spreading the Gospel

Isaiah 52:7, Romans 10:14-15

God’s Word Will Not Return Void

 Isaiah 55:11

Childlike Wonder and Humility

Matthew 18:3-4, Psalm 8:3-4

Faithfulness in Difficult Seasons

James 1:2-4, 2 Corinthians 4:17-18, Book of Job

Journey Over Destination

Philippians 3:13-14, Hebrews 12:1-2

Learning and Continual Growth

Proverbs 1:5, Proverbs 18:15, 2 Peter 3:18, Proverbs 4:7

Mentorship and Discipleship

Proverbs 27:17, 2 Timothy 2:2, Titus 2:7-8

Genuine Care and Love for Others

1 Thessalonians 2:8, Philippians 2:3-4, 1 John 3:18, John13:34-35

Planting Seeds of Faith and Harvesting

1 Corinthians 3:6-7, Mark 4:26-27

Grief, Loss, and God’s Comfort

Psalm 34:18, Matthew 5:4, 2 Corinthians 1:3-4

Legacy and Family Heritage

2 Timothy 1:5

Patience and Waiting on God’s Timing

Psalm 27:14, Isaiah 40:31, Ecclesiastes 3:1

Avoiding Recklessness While Trusting God

Proverbs 19:2, Proverbs 21:5, James 1:5

Work as Worship

1 Corinthians 10:31, Ecclesiastes 9:10, Colossians 3:23

Resilience and Coming Back from Setbacks

Proverbs 24:16, Micah 7:8

Speaking Truth at the Right Time

Proverbs 25:11, Colossians 4:6

God’s Sovereignty

Colossians 1:16, Psalm 24:1, Daniel 4:35, Isaiah 46:9-10,Job 42:2

Be Genuine

Romans 12:9-10

Know Yourself

Psalm 139:23-24

Be Born Again

John 3:5-7, John 3:3

Special Thanks:

Ray, Isaac’s Brother in Christ

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