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Beatrice speaks with Mariame Kaba and Andrea Ritchie about how we should understand the spectacular violence of Trump’s ICE surges as an extension of the violence of everyday policing, lessons in resisting proposed “reforms” that would actually give more power to ICE, and how community care and community defense help build a world toward abolition.

Transcript forthcoming.

Find Interrupting Criminalization's toolkit "Block It!: A Mini Toolkit to Take Action to Disrupt the ICE Kidnapping, Detention, and Deportation Machine" here - https://www.interruptingcriminalization.com/resources-all/block-it

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We're testing out a new Bookshop.org page (still under construction), where you can find books by past guests and book recommendations from the hosts. Find it here: bookshop.org/shop/deathpanel

Get Health Communism here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9781839765179

Find Tracy's book Abolish Rent here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9798888902523

Find Jules' latest book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9781804291603

Outro by Time Wharp: timewharp.bandcamp.com/track/tezeta