"You're not worthy." That's what a priest of 55 years told Deacon Rick Wagner months before ordination. "And I'm not either. It's not about being worthy - it's about being called."

Deacon Rick Wagner (Archdiocese of Indianapolis, ordained 2012) has spent 40+ years in Catholic education and now serves as president of a Catholic high school while ministering at the same parish where he was baptized 67 years ago. In this conversation, he shares:

- How he discovered the diaconate while running a retreat house
- His "Tell Your Story" retreat ministry reaching 15+ dioceses
- Why he uses social media as a pulpit during morning prayer
- Walking with his wife through cancer and deepening shared prayer
- What it means to accompany the dying through their fears

Plus: why St. Joseph is his favorite saint, and the moment his spiritual director's blunt honesty set him free.

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