What if the data meant to help students is actually harming them?

In schools around the world, data has become a double-edged sword. Used well, it illuminates paths to growth and ensures every learner gets the support they need. Used poorly, it labels, excludes, and—as one guest puts it—"kills students slowly" by shifting the trajectory of their lives in ways that don't serve them.

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Joan Schumann and Kelvin Wangara, two educators with deep experience in international and U.S. school systems, to explore what makes data inclusive versus exclusive. They unpack the critical pivot from data-for-accountability to data-for-growth, examine how leadership sets the tone for ethical data use, and reveal how empowering students to engage with their own data can transform classrooms.

Whether you're a school leader, teacher, or simply interested in educational equity, this conversation will challenge you to rethink how data shapes the experiences of every student.