I'm joined by Khalilah Burt Gaston of the Song Foundation to talk about who actually builds a tech economy — and why it's often the "geeks, freaks, and weirdos" who drive the biggest change.

We get into the recent Tech for Tomorrow report, what it would take to add 20,000 tech and innovation jobs for Detroiters and $6.3 billion in wages, and how cities like Indianapolis and Columbus are pulling ahead of Detroit, Metro Detroit, and Michigan. 

We also connect the dots between tax policy, education, nonprofits, and how Detroit can really seize this moment.

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