Did the Father Forsake the Son on the Cross? (HP+ Vault)

Dec 30, 2025
39 mins

Episode Description

Jesus cries out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" How can the Father forsake the Son if they're the same person in the Trinity? Was the Trinity severed? Kaitlyn has thoughts on this important theological debate—and reveals how this debate is part of why she became a theologian!

 

0:00 - Intro

 

0:37 - Theme Song

 

1:20 - Show Starts

 

2:40 - Kaitlyn's Origin Story

 

12:50 - Penal Substitutionary Atonement

 

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21:18 - Relational, Trinitarian God

 

32:10 - The Father Grieving the Son

 

39:37 - Outro Song

 

Resources:

Forsaken: The Trinity on the Cross, and Why it Matters by Thomas H. McCall: https://a.co/d/1PvcWvZ

Delighting in the Trinity: An Introduction to the Christian Faith by Michael Reeves: https://a.co/d/ikSTCLB

The Crucified God by Jürgen Moltmann: https://a.co/d/9LVdAw3

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