Gerald Weischede was one of Richard Baker’s first German students. They met in Germany at a workshop or seminar that Baker was giving. Gerald went to Santa Fe to study with Baker when he had his center there and later, with the help of his wife Gisela helped Baker get Crestone Zen Mt. Center going. He was the first director and first shuso. He and Gisela for 20 years have led a Zen community called Lebendiges Zen in Göttingen, Germany. He’s also a psychotherapist and teaches in a university and has published five books. In this podcast he talks about all this and more.