Galen Clavio is joined by Matt Dollinger of The Ringer for a thoughtful conversation about the nature of Indiana football fandom—where it’s been, why this moment feels different, and how decades of shared memory shape the way Hoosiers are experiencing a historic run.

They dig into Matt’s recent Ringer piece on Curt Cignetti and the Hoosiers, unpacking the emotional throughline of Indiana fandom, the weight of long-suffering loyalty, and what it’s like when a program suddenly flips the script on the national stage. The discussion also explores how culture, belief, and perspective have changed around IU football—and why this season resonates beyond wins and losses.