Today we got to interview Rich and DawnCheré Wilkerson, a couple we’ve been wanting to meet for a while and the conversation didn’t disappoint! After an 8 year battle with infertility, DawnCheré and her husband Rich are here to share their story of God’s faithfulness after a long season of waiting. We talked about DawnCheré’s powerful new book that explores what it means to find purpose, joy, and strength in seasons of waiting, and how we are all waiting on something in our lives. Together, Rich and DawnCheré share how their journey through infertility, ministry, and unanswered prayers transformed their perspective on pain, purpose, and God’s timing. So whether you’re in a holding pattern or coming out of a hard season, we hope this conversation reminds you that your story is still unfolding. Love you guys! Shawn & Andrew Purchase DawnCheré’s Book ▶ https://www.thomasnelson.com/p/slow-burn/ Follow Rich ▶ https://www.instagram.com/richwilkersonjr/?hl=en Follow DawnCheré ▶ https://www.instagram.com/dawnchere/?hl=en Beam Kids is now available online at https://www.shopbeam.com/COUPLETHINGS Take advantage of our exclusive discount of up to 40% off using code COUPLETHINGS Subscribe to our newsletter ▶ https://www.familymade.com/newsletter Follow our podcast Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/shawnandandrewpods/ Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Shop My LTK Page ▶ https://www.shopltk.com/explore/shawnjohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?lang=en

(00:00) meet rich and dawncheré wilkerson

(01:20) let the chat begin

(02:20) how did the wilkersons become the wilkersons

(05:30) dawncheré’s beautiful name

(07:50) leading a church together … what does that look like

(13:32) what is the hardest thing in ministry right now

(18:31) living in the wait

(21:05) is it harder to wait these days

(25:45) how to navigate people telling you not to wait … does waiting mean something is wrong

(34:38) how do you wake up and find hope in the waiting

(40:30) how did it feel when you had your first baby

(46:27) do you force yourself to wait in an intentional way

(50:34) waiting can be the “golden moment”