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In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas sweats his way through a personally revealing exchange with Quinn Slobodian, Professor of International History at Boston University and the author of Hayek’s Bastards: The Neoliberal Roots of the Populist Right.
Quinn explains:
- Friedrich Hayek’s “knowledge problem” and his defence of markets over central planning.
- Hayek’s later theory of cultural evolution, inherited institutions, and the limits of universal market society.
- The split between “cultural Austrians” at George Mason University and “racial Austrians” around the Mises Institute.
- Murray Rothbard’s move from courting anti-war hippies to building alliances with paleoconservatives and racial nationalists.
- Hans-Hermann Hoppe, anarcho-capitalism, secession, and racially homogeneous private communities.
- The Bell Curve, Charles Murray, IQ research, and the politics of scientific claims about race and inequality.
- The difference between ideas that are empirically false and ideas rejected because they are morally disturbing.
- The post-Cold War transformation of neoliberal enemies from communism to environmentalism, affirmative action, feminism, and welfare.
- The divide between neoconservatives and paleoconservatives over US foreign policy, nationalism, and the Iraq War.
- Whether Hayek’s Bastards reveals a major genealogy of the modern Far Right—or exaggerates the influence of a provocative fringe.
Visit Quinn’s website: www.quinnslobodian.com
Find Quinn on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/quinnslobodian.com
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Produced and edited by Thomas Small.
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