In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas talks to Sir Vince Cable, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats in the UK, about his new book Eclipsing the West: China, India and the forging of a new world.

Sir Vince discusses:

• Postcolonial state-building, development economics, and his formative experiences in Kenya
• Globalisation, financialisation, and the legacy of the 2008 financial crisis
• The rise of China and India as “superstates” in a new tripolar world
• Geo-economics, US–China rivalry, and the breakdown of the liberal international order
• Democracy versus authoritarianism and the crisis of liberal governance
• Ideology, nationalism, and the limits of rationality in geopolitics
• Multipolarity, global disorder, climate crisis, and the future of world order

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Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

This episode was produced by Thomas Small & Ross Field and edited by Lizzy Andrews.

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