Whitney shares an interview with Harriet Shearsmith, author of "Unfollowing Mum: Break Unhealthy Patterns and be the Parent You Wish You’d Had" and host of the Unfollowing Mum podcast. Harriet opens up about her journey from being completely enmeshed with her mother who lived with Harriet, her husband and three children to eventually becoming estranged after asking her mom to find her own home. They discuss the challenges of recognizing abuse in your own family system, the societal guilt of cutting contact with a parent, cycle breaking with your own children, and how to repair when you make mistakes with your own children.

Harriet's new book: https://amzn.to/43vKLFO

Harriet's website: https://harrietshearsmith.com/

Harriet's Instagram: @harrietshearsmith 

Whitney Goodman is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and the founder of Calling Home, a membership community that helps people navigate complex family dynamics and break harmful cycles.

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00:00 Introduction to Harriet Shearsmith and her work

01:43 Harriet's story

15:19 The societal guilt of questioning your parent's behavior

26:07 The difficulty of defining abuse

44:14 Raising children who know their worth

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