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How did the oppressive Ayatollah regime convince the Western left that they’re the victims?

Dan speaks with Iranian-American lawyer and activist Elica Le Bon about the ideological narratives that form (and distort) the West’s reaction to the Iran war. Le Bon explains the deep divide between the Iranian people and the Islamic regime, the cycles of protests and repression, the imperialist roots of the regime’s long-standing obsession with Israel, and the Marxist prism through which the Western left understands the conflict.

In this episode:

06:30 – Elica Le Bon’s family story and the legacy of the 1979 revolution

07:45 – Life under the Islamic regime and the experience of repression

11:05 – The gap between the Iranian people and the regime ruling them

14:42 – Why the Iranian regime sees Israel as central to its ideology

20:32 – How ideological narratives in the West shape perceptions of the war

23:42 – The “mind virus” of anti-Western and anti-Zionist thinking

26:46 – Protest movements inside Iran and the risks people face

31:04 – What a post-regime Iran could mean for the Middle East and the world

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