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AMC's CEO says Robinhood's stock tokens are vile. Austin, Chris, and Ram break down what these tokens actually are, and whether the outrage holds up.
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AMC's CEO spent the holiday weekend calling Robinhood's tokenized AMC shares "contemptible" and "vile," and AMC stock jumped nearly 21% anyway.
Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins pick apart Adam Aron's fight with Robinhood, and ask whether the dispute is really about capital formation, or about who gets to sell exposure to a company's stock. The discussion also sees them cover the mechanics of a reverse ADR and debate the value of the stock tokens, with Ram saying they solve no real problems.
Plus, why memecoins like $FAMI and $STONK are trading against Robinhood Chain's stock tokens, Anthropic's Fable 5.1 and OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra clearing new cybersecurity thresholds, Bernie Sanders' bill to ban artificial superintelligence, and whether Kevin Warsh's Fed will hike in September.
Chris says stock-paired memecoins are GameStop 2.0 and Ram says Warsh is only talking the talk but likely won't walk the walk.
Hosts
Austin Campbell - Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct Professor at NYU Stern
Ram Ahluwalia - Co-host of Bits + Bips and CEO of Lumida
Chris Perkins - Co-host of Bits + Bips and Head of Franklin Crypto
Timestamps:
🥊 01:43 AMC's CEO calls Robinhood's stock tokens vile: what they actually are
📊 07:16 Ram: stock tokens are "derivatives for the sake of derivatives"
🔍 12:18 Why Austin says the AMC fight reveals markets microstructure ignorance
🌎 19:17 Austin's case that DeFi-distributed US stocks are genuinely transformational
📣 23:57 1inch Aqua: back multiple liquidity positions with one wallet balance at https://oneinch.com/aqua
🎰 25:13 Why the stock-paired memecoin frenzy is GameStop 2.0
🤖 29:31 Fable 5.1 and GPT-6 Astra go live: why AGI is not here yet
🏭 36:43 Chris on data centers become a bipartisan flashpoint heading into midterms
🏛️ 45:38 Warsh's hike talk and a payrolls surprise scramble rate bets
🌍 53:28 Norway's sovereign fund plan to cut US Treasurys: signal or top?