Scientists are simulating cyber attacks and system failures on real-world energy infrastructure - without ever putting the actual grid at risk.

This is Skyfall at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

From real-world incidents like the Ukraine power grid cyberattack 2015 to cascading failures across interconnected systems, this episode explores how cyber-physical incidents can disrupt critical infrastructure in the United States - and how scientists at Skyfall are working to understand and prepare for them. Researchers are using simulation, AI and new approaches like the immune infrastructure framework to understand those risks - and design systems that can adapt and recover when things go wrong.

Guests featured (in order of appearance):

• Nate Gleason - Cyber and Infrastructure Resilience (CIR) Program Lead, LLNL
• Vaibhav Donde - Associate Program Lead, CIR, LLNL
• Colin Ponce - Computer Scientist, CIR, LLNL

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Big Ideas Lab is a Mission.org original series.

Executive Produced by Levi Hanusch.

Sound Design, Music Edit and Mix by Matthew Powell.

Story Editing by Levi Hanusch.

Audio Engineering and Editing by Matthew Powell.

Narrated by Matthew Powell.

Video Production by Levi Hanusch.

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