ACE in the Hole: ACE Hardware’s Gina Schaefer on Becoming an ESOP

Mar 27, 2025
42 mins

Episode Description

Meet Gina Schaefer, founder and former CEO of A Few Cool Hardware Stores, and current CEO Craig Smith. Based in the Washington-Baltimore region, they are an ESOP of 13 brick and mortar hardware stores, generating roughly $50M in annual sales, which transitioned in 2021, creating over a hundred employee owners.

Some takeaways:

  • How an excited employee owner at New Belgium Brewery, and realizing employees paid $0 to become owners convinced Gina and her CFO husband Marc to choose an ESOP exit
  • The Hogan leadership assessment helped Gina zero in on change management as a key trait to find in her successor, Craig
  • Gina and Craig’s quest to professionalize the neighborhood brick and mortar hardware store retail experience – including building significant wealth for employee owners
  • Gina had to overcome obstacles as a woman in a male-dominated business world, including how she let go of the title “CEO".

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CHAPTERS

  • (00:00) - Chapter 1
  • (00:00) - Introduction to Employee Ownership
  • (04:35) - The Concept of Recovery Hardware
  • (04:35) - Hiring for Impact: Building Generational Wealth
  • (05:05) - Mentorship and Guidance in Transition
  • (06:06) - The Role of Employee Ownership Exchange Network
  • (06:48) - Craig's Journey into Hardware Ownership
  • (07:42) - Navigating Employee Ownership
  • (08:25) - Learning from Mentors in the ESOP Process
  • (09:22) - Exploring Ownership Options
  • (10:10) - The Value of ESOPs
  • (11:01) - Tools and Resources for ESOPs
  • (11:18) - Financial Considerations in the ESOP Decision
  • (11:54) - Navigating Financial Considerations in Business Transitions
  • (13:19) - The ESOP Advantage: Employee Ownership and Tax Benefits
  • (14:42) - Professionalizing Retail: The Impact of Employee Ownership
  • (16:42) - Building Relationships: The Role of National Cooperative Bank
  • (18:44) - Manifesting Success: The Journey of Business Growth
  • (20:09) - Valuation Insights: Understanding Business Worth
  • (21:20) - Understanding Valuation in ESOPs
  • (22:21) - Transitioning to an ESOP: The Journey Begins
  • (24:59) - Change Management and Leadership Dynamics
  • (29:28) - Documenting Processes for a Smooth Transition
  • (30:35) - Empathy in Leadership During Change
  • (31:10) - Navigating Change and Employee Concerns
  • (33:30) - Understanding ESOPs and Employee Engagement
  • (34:32) - Streamlining the Transition Process
  • (37:50) - Setting Goals and Metrics for Success
  • (38:59) - Emotional Aspects of Transitioning to ESOPs
  • (41:31) - Call to Action
  • (42:16) - Podcast Outro

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