Al Brown is one of New Zealand’s most beloved chefs — but behind the TV fame (Hunger for the Wild, Masterchef), award-winning restaurants (Logan Brown, Depot, Federal Deli, Best Ugly Bagels), and his role as a Kiwi food icon lies a story of adoption, perfectionism, reinvention and resilience.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Al opens up about:

• Walking away from fine dining and Logan Brown
• Building Depot into one of NZ’s most iconic restaurants
• His drive for perfectionism — and the toll it’s taken
• Friendship, family, and what happiness looks like at 60
• Why fritters, pies and bagels matter in our Kiwi food story

This episode is funny, raw and deeply human — a look inside the life of a man who helped redefine New Zealand’s food culture. Enjoy!

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