Show Notes 

• Josh joins the High School band booster club, Ben’s Optometrist “almost served” in the military, the guys recap their trip to MagicCON Vegas 2026, they discuss the “red button or blue button” dilemma, and Ben updates his thesis that the accumulation of risk controls is an uncontrolled risk (AKA “The Tyranny of Zero”). 
• Intro & Follow-up (0-9:49)
  • Zorach v. Clauson | 343 U.S. 306 (1952) | Justia U.S. Supreme Court Center 
• Vegas 2026 (9:49-40:58)
  • Photo of Josh and Ben at MagicCON 
• Bad at Parenting (40:58-49:14) 
• Bad at Veteraning (49:14-53:56) 
• What I’m Reading (53:56-1:08:37)
  • Josh: Knife of Dreams by Robert Jordan 
  • Ben: All the Rage: Mothers, Fathers, and the Myth of Equal Partnership by Darcy Lockman 
• The Tyranny of Zero (1:08:37-end)
  • Lying to Ourselves: Dishonesty in the Army Profession 
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