Donald Trump is vowing revenge, after American service members were killed by Iranian strikes. Meanwhile in Iran, President Mahmoud Pezeshkian has told his people that they are engaged in a full-scale war. And the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen are vowing to blockade a second critical shipping channel, further threatening global oil supplies. Former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel joins the program to discuss. 

Also on today's show: US House Democrat Mark Pocan; climate professor Radley Horton; author Adrian Wooldridge 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices