He Tried to Infiltrate the Mormon Church

Nov 18, 2025
33 mins

Episode Description

In this episode, Baylor and Cade dive into the strange and fascinating story of Ishmael, also known as “Ish of Arabia,” a man who tried to infiltrate the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as an experiment. From his wild takes on Mormon theology to his attempts to “join undercover,” the hosts react, laugh, and fact-check along the way.If you wan to listen to Ishmael’s conversion story to catholicism:    • From Muslim to Catholic: Islam Is the Here...  The story of his conversion to Christ is awesome and everyone should check it out!In this video, we discuss everything from misconceptions about becoming “a god” to how baptism and leadership really work in the church. Along the way, they unpack Ishmael’s outsider perspective, respond to analogies like “the Trinity as a corporation,” and address misconceptions about Joseph Smith, polygamy, and LDS history.It’s a mix of humor, clarity, and thoughtful conversation about what people often get wrong about Mormonism, and why talking about it still matters.

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