113. Sir Tom Copinger-Symes, Former Deputy Commander of UK's Cyber & Specialist Command (CSOC)

February 17
40 mins

Episode Description

If we want to win the next fight, we have to outlearn first.

This week, Tyler sits down with Sir Tom Copinger-Symes, former Deputy Commander of UK's Cyber & Specialist Command (CSOC), to talk about the hard shift from infantry officer to cyber leader — and what that journey reveals about where defense is behind.

What’s happening on the second front:

  • Industrial-age systems in an information-age world
  • Why cyber and electronic warfare are decisive
  • Why recruitment is a flow problem, not a patriotism problem
  • The cognitive battlefield shaping outcomes every day
  • And what dialing up risk really means


No backbone → no speed.

No speed → no advantage.


Connect with Sir Tom Copinger-Symes


Connect with Tyler

See all episodes