Unlocking Communication: The Story of PECS with Dr. Andy Bondy & Lori Frost

Oct 28, 2025
47 mins

Episode Description

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Andy Bondy and his wife, Lori Frost, MS,
CCC-SLP, who are the co-founders of Pyramid Educational Consultants, Inc.
They’re also the creators of the Picture Exchange Communication System
(PECS). Together, they share about the origins and updates of PECS, their
work around the world, and the release of the 3rd Edition of the PECS
Manual.


We explore the importance of everyday language when discussing effective
teaching strategies, the power of collaborative teamwork, and the need for
truly individualized support. Andy and Lori also provide a forward-looking
perspective on the future of PECS and emphasize why embracing cross-
cultural understanding is essential for effective communication.


Join us for this insightful conversation that offers evidence-based
communication practices designed to empower parents, educators, and
clinicians.

All Autism Talk is sponsored by LEARN Behavioral (www.learnbehavioral.com). To view this episode's transcription, video interview, or show notes, visit www.allautismtalk.com 

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