As debates rage on over how to make housing production cheaper, Cara Eckholm — formerly of Sidewalk Labs, modular growth company Nabr, and Cornell Tech — has her eyes on modular. Cara, who now runs the urban consultancy Eckholm Studios, sits down with Jamie to discuss what New York should do to — and what pitfalls we should avoid — to build good homes faster.

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